Spoilers Underappreciated Side Character Appreciation Thread (Freak of the Week & The Joe Chronicles)

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This is The Ultimate Joe-down of Ultimate Destiny: Which Joe is Joe Supreme?

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lupingavemebrainrot

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I mean, to be clear I think we should trust Chik's experience on this, as a person who has been there her whole life and watched these things at the time!

But I do think it's more complex. Not being able to be openly gay is not the same as NOT being gay. Even in places where it's illegal, or very frowned upon, queer people still exist and live in the shadows, trusting each other with those secrets. We always have and always will.

I'm sure this is true in Japan of their queer community just as much as in the USA, and all over the world. These histories are not often as easy to hear, you have to seek them out. That's true here in the USA, too. The history of minorities is always harder to find out, it takes so much more work to find out.

I think it's not just about what made Rose of Versailles okay enough to air, what gave it plausible deniability about being queer, but that I feel very sure that Oscar had many many female fans that liked her for being masculine and defying gender roles.
true sorry I took a gender studies class and my professor had a whole week lesson on yuri media and whether or not it was feminist basically I was just on queue regurgitating the stuff she fed me. I really regret taking that class makes me suck out the joy in just overanalyzing stuff. but I had to take an elective to complete my American courses so I can do the same medical stuff in the USA as I did in England for my job. they literally would not let me transfer credits with out that one.
 
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beardedangel

The World's 5th Shortest Jigen
New freak of the week, but... I just wanna preface that I adored reading the discussion that stemmed from Onabes--- this is what I live for, y'all. One character who, in the grand scheme of things, is somewhat irrelevant and obscure to the overall Lupin III series, has so much room for interpretation and speculation. I learned so much from y'all, and despite being a self-proclaimed dumbass... I love learning! I never knew of Aristotle Onassis, the term 'onabe', or the Some Like It Hot connections before I read y'all's responses. Thank you to everyone who contributed, it means so much to me--- your wonderful input and thoughts are valuable to me. To me, it just goes to show how even the most little things that often get overlooked and underappreciated offer so much value.

Also, we haven't had an Ultimate Joe-down check-up in a hot second, so, let's take a gander at that...
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Hell yeah. 😎

Now, without further ado, let's talk about Seiryu from Part 3, Episode 24, "Sleep Deeply, My Friend".
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Jigen's ten thousand psychotic ex-boyfriends are sooo last season. Goemon's boyfriends are in vogue now--- yeah, no, sorry. Every single one of Jigen's endless string of terrible life choices lives in my head rent free, they're all just such horrendous, monstrous freakazoids. But, Seiryu is so interesting to me, because, unlike the unredeemable musclebound scumbags (minus a few specific himboesque exceptions... cough- Dynamite Joe -cough...) Jigen gets himself mixed up with, Seiryu is not the embodiment of pure evil.

So, some devious creep named Gozo Taniyama is exhibiting ancient Chinese treasures from the Tang dynasty in an effort to strengthen relations with Japan. One of the most notable pieces is the three-headed dragon statue, Bunkitai, which is worth millions. He entrusts The Blue Dragon, Seiryu, to protect the treasure.

After Fujiko performs some reconnaissance, the gang bust a move--- Goemon jumps out of a plane, swooping in and cutting loose the box storing the Bunkitai as it is loaded on a cargo boat for transport. It drops down to the ocean floor, where our favorite gentleman thief lurks below in scuba gear. Lupin and Goemon yoink the treasure, and return back to Jigen, who is the designated getaway driver. I love moments like these where the four pull off a heist together. Teamwork makes the dream work, except, oops, no it does not...
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Seiryu confronts them, and Jigen is prepared to pump his ass full of lead, but Goemon gets in between them... he and Seiryu are former childhood friends, the two of them spending years learning "kara-ninpoh" together (I tried researching what the hell that even means, but I think the spelling might be an error in the English sub) at the Mikyonamji temple. The tension is so thick, you could cut through it with the Zantetsuken. Seiryu rushes at Goemon, the two getting into a heated swordfight--- but, they're equals in terms of strength. Their reunion, however, it cut short when Zenigata floats over to arrest them. Seiryu peaces out, promising that they'll cross paths once more, and warns the gang to chuck the decoy Bunkitai before it explodes on them.

Seiryu returns to Taniyama, who then orders him to murder the gang next time he sees them, or else he'll never get to know the secret of who killed his relatives--- yep, poor Seiryu's loved ones were gunned down one evening, and Taniyama knows who's responsible... because... well, Taniyama himself is the one behind their deaths. Seiryu serves him in order to learn the secret, but, Taniyama just intends on shooting Seiryu as soon as he no longer proves useful... yikes.

The gang attempt to steal the Bunkitai for the second time in a row--- Fujiko and Lupin infiltrate Taniyama's showroom in disguise, using knockout gas to put Taniyama and his men to sleep. Zenigata corners them before the two reach Jigen on the roof, but Lupin tosses the Bunkitai over to Goemon, who escapes with the treasure in tow.

But, Seiryu intercepts, and Goemon is forced to duel on a bunch of wires suspended over the cityscape below--- and, it doesn't look good. Seiryu knocks Goemon off of the wires, where he plunges into a rooftop pool. Defeated, Taniyama taunts Goemon as he snags the Bunkitai--- Seiryu offers to end Goemon's life so he does not have to die a dishonorable death. Goemon concedes, but, before he dies, he tells Seiryu that Taniyama is behind the murder of his loved ones--- when Seiryu questions Goemon further, Taniyama shoots him in the back, deciding to kill to birds with one stone, so to speak. Seiryu, however, shields Goemon from the rest of the bullets, allowing for Jigen to come in clutch with the helicopter rescue.

In the end, Goemon avenges his fallen boyfriend--- HE CHOPS CLEAN THROUGH A CAR AND DECAPITATES TANIYAMA AND HIS HENCHMEN AND THERE IS ON-SCREEN BLOOD HOLY SHIT??? I FORGET HOW GRUESOME PART 3 CAN BE SOMETIMES, IT DECEIVES ME WITH ITS PRETTY NEON 80'S COLOR PALETTE. With how often Goemon repeats Seiryu's name in the most forlorn and soft tone possible throughout this episode, you get the impression that these two have a deep respect for one another, both as opponents and... lovers, perhaps...? Even in their confrontations, it is nothing but reverent--- Seiryu comments on Goemon, noting his decline in skills, and Goemon is just like "huh, no kidding, ur totally right bro" like??? Seiryu doesn't seem to mean it as an insult either, he knows what Goemon is capable of and wants to see him to do better. I often forget how tender and sweet this episode is, but... then, I also remember that Lupin escapes Zenigata with a fart that makes his pants explode...

... emotional whiplash at it's finest, y'all.
 
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beardedangel

The World's 5th Shortest Jigen
Oh, and! I think I read out there on the internet somewhere that TWCFM Oscar was based on a one-off character in Part 2? So there's definitely stuff to find!
I just had a flashback to Part 2, Episode 3, "Hitler's Legacy" (or, the superior English title, "To Be or Nazi Be"). In this episode, Zenigata gets an assistant named Kitakoji.
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He's moreso a proto-Yata than a proto-Oscar, however. Kitakoji is a neurotic rule-follower in stark contrast to Zenigata's chaotic Part 2 brand of lawfulness. Zenigata is so out-of-pocket in this episode omg. He is so RUDE to Kitakoji for no reason whatsoever. The poor man is just trying to help him catch Lupin, but Zenigata dunks on Kitakoji the entire time, muttering names under his breath and just overall being a menace.
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...#justiceforKitakoji. Please give this man a raise, he has the patience of a saint. Kitakoji is such a sweetheart, he does not deserve this.
 
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Bründelkärf

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I just had a flashback to Part 2, Episode 3, "Hitler's Legacy" (or, the superior English title, "To Be or Nazi Be"). In this episode, Zenigata gets an assistant named Kitakoji.
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That was also my reaction to that moment, and especially to the end of the EP.
But I still kinda like it that Part 2 was so wild they made the 3rd EP about a lost Nazi Treasure with Zenigata and Lupin making Nazi Salutes while also having an actually really great part with the wall.
 
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Seiryu confronts them, and Jigen is prepared to pump his ass full of lead, but Goemon gets in between them... he and Seiryu are former childhood friends, the two of them spending years learning "kara-ninpoh" together (I tried researching what the hell that even means, but I think the spelling might be an error in the English sub) at the Mikyonamji temple. The tension is so thick, you could cut through it with the Zantetsuken. Seiryu rushes at Goemon, the two getting into a heated swordfight--- but, they're equals in terms of strength. Their reunion, however, it cut short when Zenigata floats over to arrest them. Seiryu peaces out, promising that they'll cross paths once more, and warns the gang to chuck the decoy Bunkitai before it explodes on them.

There are so many errors in the subs so I'll correct some. First off, the treasure they are looking at is not "Ree Foa Bunkitai" but "Ryu-hou Bunkidai" 龍方文机台, which I'd assume from how it spells in Kanji is something that originally was made to use as a small study desk with the decoration of dragons. FYI, "Bukitai" in Japanese translates to "road dividers" or "traffic lane separators" which I don't believe would be worth billions. :ROFLMAO: The temple where my man & Seiryu learnt what's called "kara ninpou" is not "Mikyonamji temple" but "Mikkyo Nanzanji/ Nanzan temple". Mikkyo refers to Vajrayana and the name of the temple is fictional.
"Kara-ninpou" on the other hand is spelt right. "Kara" is what the name of the imperial dynasty of China that ruled from 618 to 907 is called in Japanese and "ninpou" also called "ninjutsu" is the martial art strategy and tactics practised by the ninja.

As a huge Goe fan, it's more than obvious that this episode is my most favourite of pt.3, as well as one of my top 10 of the entire series. What stands out in this particular episode is the way his anger, sorrow & pain are portrayed in the last scene. He just stands still with his eyes open in the pissing rain, remains in silence, then just wields his sword and cuts the bastard in two and leaves without looking back. No tear jerker backstory or memory between him and Seiryu is told. In fact, the last words we hear from my man is when he tells Seiryu who murdered his family and he remains in silence for the last 4 minutes of the episode. He wouldn't even call his friend's name when he dies protecting him. All of these only make us feel his pain more close as if he's right here next to us screaming out in devastation in his mind. This episode IMO is such a masterpiece.
 
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beardedangel

The World's 5th Shortest Jigen
This is actually one of my favorite eps from Part 3, I really love the releationship he and Goemon have and the end of the EP gets me every time.
There are so many errors in the subs so I'll correct some. First off, the treasure they are looking at is not "Ree Foa Bunkitai" but "Ryu-hou Bunkidai" 龍方文机台, which I'd assume from how it spells in Kanji is something that originally was made to use as a small study desk with the decoration of dragons. FYI, "Bukitai" in Japanese translates to "road dividers" or "traffic lane separators" which I don't believe would worth billions. :ROFLMAO: The temple where my man & Seiryu learnt what's called "kara ninpou" is not "Mikyonamji temple" but "Mikkyo Nanzanji/ Nanzan temple". Mikkyo refers to Vajrayana and the name of the temple is fictional.
"Kara-ninpou" on the other hand is spelt right. "Kara" is what the name of the imperial dynasty of China that ruled from 618 to 907 is called in Japanese and "ninpou" also called "ninjutsu" is the martial art strategy and tactics practised by the ninja.

As a huge Goe fan, it's more than obvious that this episode is my most favourite of pt.3, as well as one of my top 10 of the entire series. What stands out in this particular episode is the way his anger, sorrow & pain are portrayed in the last scene. He just stands still with his eyes open in the pissing rain, remains in silent, then just wields his sword and cut the bastard in two and leaves without looking back. No tear jerker backstory or memory between him and Seiryu is told. In fact, the last words we hear from my man is when he tells Seiryu who murdered his family and he remains in silent for the last 4 minutes of the episode. He wouldn't even call his friend's name when he dies protecting him. All of these only make us feel his pain more close as if he's right here next to us screaming out in devastation in his mind. This episode IMO is such a masterpiece.
Thank you so much for the translations, chiK! 😄 When I tried looking up some of the terms, everything came up blank--- and, that was super frustrating, because I felt like I was missing out on some important info. I wanted to know what Goemon and Seiryu studied together. I really appreciate you coming in clutch yet again--- you're a rockstar! 🫶

I am cackling like a witch at the Bunkitai/Bunkidai mistranslation, that is hilarious. The sub called the dragon statue that for the entire episode. 💀

Hopefully Part 3 will get a better sub in the future, because it really deserves it. I see often that Part 3 is underrated, a notion I agree with--- I think one of the reasons that contributes to that factor is the lack of a decent sub/dub. It's unfortunate, because Part 3 has some phenomenal episodes, like this one and the ones mentioned in Eyesics wonderful episode appreciation thread... the current English subs just aren't cutting the mustard.

As for the ending of the episode, I agree one-hundred percent--- Goemon stands there in silence, yet, so much is conveyed through the animation alone. You can sense Goemon's grief and sorrow at the loss of someone close to him, no need for a long explanation, you just know that these two men cared for one another through context clues--- the feeling of catharsis when he avenges Seiryu's death is so immense, it really is such a powerful scene.
 
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beardedangel

The World's 5th Shortest Jigen
How have I gone so long without a freak from Castle of Cagliostro yet?

So, real talk, I've been under a lot of stress as of late... I want to keep the freak zone bummer-free, so I won't divulge much, but, whenever I need to comfort and soothe myself... I put on good ol' Castle of Cagliostro. The gorgeous aesthetics, the softer tone... it just helps me to forget about the woes of the world for a little bit. As I was watching, I was reminded of a previous post on here courtesy of Quill:

+ Zenigata's Lieutenant in Cagliostro. He doesn't even have a name but he seems like such a good character? Big dad vibes, too.

I love Zenigata's hivemind of Guys™ so much. I remember The Guys™ being present in a handful of episodes (the iconic Part 2, Episode 145, "Wings of Death - Albatross", comes to mind). I've said it before, but I believe Zenigata needs more friends. When it comes to The Guys™, he has a whole armada of devout identical clone buddies--- the more friends, the merrier. 😃 I get the impression that Miyazaki felt the same, because he sure likes to use these Guys™ a lot, with The Guys™ at their absolute best in Castle of Cagliostro--- one of them, presumed to be the leader or lieutenant of the Interpol riot squad that answers to Zenigata, even gets a couple of lines and notable moments in the movie.

I just finished the 1994 1992 English dub, and... unless I'm just stupid (yes), I swear to God, I heard Zenigata refer to this dude as Sam after the international delegates choose to ignore his proof on the Cagliostro counterfeits... Sam...!?! His name is Sam...??? Apparently...??? For some reason...??? I guess lol...??? Chock that as yet another thing about Castle of Cagliostro I never noticed before, the first being that Goemon was buried under the mountain of cash inside the Fiat in the beginning of the movie the whole time. However, in this dub, Lupin is often referred to as Wolf and Zenigata also introduces himself to the count as Inspector Keibu Zenigata so, uh, yeah, that is not correct lol, but... idk, for some reason, this dude being named Sam is funny to me, so...

...yeah, today we're talking about Interpol Officer, a.k.a, Sam, from Castle of Cagliostro.
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Sam and The Guys™ follow Inspector Zenigata to Cagliostro on the Lupin case--- once Zenigata gets wind of the Count's upcoming wedding, he deduces that Lupin is gonna crash the shindig, per the gentleman thief's usual modus operandi. But, Gustav, the Count's chief of security, sasses Zenigata and The Guys™, basically calling them incompetent loser dweeb man-babies in the most passive-aggressive method possible--- he and Zeni have this tense beef between them throughout the entire movie, and our beloved Sam serves as Zenigata's forever supportive bestie.

When Zenigata gets accosted by the guards on the night Lupin breaches the castle, Sam and The Guys™ rush in to help him. After the international delegates dunk on Zenigata when he presents evidence on the Count's counterfeiting enterprise, Sam is there to encourage and support him. He and The Guys™ help Zenigata push a ton of squad cars through the mud in order to get to the wedding on time. Zenigata endures a lot of bullshit in this movie, but... Sam and The Guys™ are there to help the bumbling inspector get through it in one piece.

We all need a Sam in our lives. He doesn't say much, I suppose... but, when he does, he acts with Zenigata's best interests and protection in mind. In short, Sam is a total sweetheart and I love him. He's just a genuine, good person who wants to help others however he is able. Big dad vibes, indeed.
 
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I just finished the 1994 English dub, and... unless I'm just stupid (yes), I swear to God, I heard Zenigata refer to this dude as Sam after the international delegates choose to ignore his proof on the Cagliostro counterfeits... Sam...!?! His name is Sam...??? Apparently...??? For some reason...??? I guess lol...??? Chock that as yet another thing about Castle of Cagliostro I never noticed before, the first being that Goemon was buried under the mountain of cash inside the Fiat in the beginning of the movie the whole time. However, in this dub, Lupin is often referred to as Wolf and Zenigata also introduces himself to the count as Inspector Keibu Zenigata so, uh, yeah, that is not correct lol, but... idk, for some reason, this dude being named Sam is funny to me, so...
I guess you were talking about the1992 Streamline dub. I never noticed he was called Sam so I checked. You are difinitely NOT stupid. Pops does tell him "Never mind, Sam". I also checked with the 2000 Manga Entertainment dub as well as the original Japanese, neither even bothers to mention his name. 😂
As for Lupin being referred to as Wolf, it's because they were trying to get around the copyright laws regarding the Arsène Lupin name. In fact, the name "Lupin" is only said once in the Streamline dub. Inspector Keibu Zenigata is just a translation error.
 

beardedangel

The World's 5th Shortest Jigen
I guess you were talking about the1992 Streamline dub. I never noticed he was called Sam so I checked. You are difinitely NOT stupid. Pops does tell him "Never mind, Sam". I also checked with the 2000 Manga Entertainment dub as well as the original Japanese, neither even bothers to mention his name. 😂
As for Lupin being referred to as Wolf, it's because they were trying to get around the copyright laws regarding the Arsène Lupin name. In fact, the name "Lupin" is only said once in the Streamline dub. Inspector Keibu Zenigata is just a translation error.
Yes, 1992, that was a mistype on my end, thank you--- and yes, Streamline, the one with Bob Bergen, not the David Hayter one lol.

And I love the workarounds this dub came up with to avoid using the name Lupin... despite using it a couple times lol. Maybe it's baseball rules, a 'three strikes and your out' sorta thing lol? Wolf, to me, is clever and cool, and I feel like it makes for a good nickname for Lupin to hint at the meaning behind the French surname. I'm also partial to Jigen calling him boss--- both Steve Bulen and Chris Sabat share that little quirk. Idk, while I do think it makes more for sense for Lupin and Jigen to refer to each other using their proper surnames due to their histories established in Zero... I also kinda see it as a cute little show of respect. To me, it reminds me of how we speak down here where I'm from--- we're taught to use 'yessir' or 'no sir', even if it's, like, your cousin Throckmorton from down the street or something lol.
 
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What annoys the most in the Streamline dub is that the "g" in "Cagliostro" is very clearly pronounced, like a "hard g". Every time I hear it's pronounced, I get the urge to cerrect them "No!!!! It's a silent G for god's sake!!!". :ROFLMAO:
 
So I've been lurking around this forum for a hot minute but I just gotta chime in to say that, so far, this is probably my favorite thread on here. Freak of the Week is fantastically written with a truly chaotic and varied selection of Freaks and the Joe Saga was an exquisite little arc to follow (congrats to Dynamite Joe, the Joest of Joes!)

All of my favorite little freaks were unfortunately covered to some extent already (Manga Melon Cop, Mariya, Roark (seriously, the dude's basically Jigen's Zenigata but blatantly evil) and, my personal favorite, Miyazaki's Zenigata's collective of Guys™)--

OH, actually, I really like Sakuraba and Kunikida from the live-action Zenigata series, even though they appear more than once. Them and the commissioner and his little freak sidekick that rolls his eyes at Zenigata whenever he so much as breathes, if I remember correctly. The one-off villains were pretty fun too, especially basic knockoff Saw guy from the pilot, Totally Not Fujiko who actually gave Zenigata a run for his money in a one-on-one fight, and-- okay, maybe there's more one-off little freaks in that series than I thought.

I haven't seen many live-action character entries here; might be fun to give one or two of your favorites some attention! Cheers!
 

beardedangel

The World's 5th Shortest Jigen
So I've been lurking around this forum for a hot minute but I just gotta chime in to say that, so far, this is probably my favorite thread on here. Freak of the Week is fantastically written with a truly chaotic and varied selection of Freaks and the Joe Saga was an exquisite little arc to follow (congrats to Dynamite Joe, the Joest of Joes!)
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WAAAAAAAAWAWAWAWAAA!?!? THANK YOU??? OMG???

In all seriousness, from the bottom of my heart, thank you, tackyoptic. That really means a lot to me. Between the upcoming freaks I have in store and the wonderful contributions written on here by fellow Freak Enthusiasts, I hope we'll continue to deliver more freaky fun in this thread and continue to appreciate those who often go unappreciated. I, for one, am inspired to see what the future holds.
All of my favorite little freaks were unfortunately covered to some extent already (Manga Melon Cop, Mariya, Roark (seriously, the dude's basically Jigen's Zenigata but blatantly evil) and, my personal favorite, Miyazaki's Zenigata's collective of Guys™)--
Poop, sorry to have beaten you to the punch on those ones there... but, it's never too late to expound on them, especially if you feel we might've missed something or just want to share your own perspective.

You are so correct on Blood Roark being the twisted blonde beefcake version of Zenigata OMG. He and Jigen even posseses the exact same level of sexual tension Lupin and Zeni have between them, but like... in Jigen's Batshit Insane Ex Melodrama™ flavor, of course.
OH, actually, I really like Sakuraba and Kunikida from the live-action Zenigata series, even though they appear more than once. Them and the commissioner and his little freak sidekick that rolls his eyes at Zenigata whenever he so much as breathes, if I remember correctly. The one-off villains were pretty fun too, especially basic knockoff Saw guy from the pilot, Totally Not Fujiko who actually gave Zenigata a run for his money in a one-on-one fight, and-- okay, maybe there's more one-off little freaks in that series than I thought.

I haven't seen many live-action character entries here; might be fun to give one or two of your favorites some attention! Cheers!
And YES, thank you so much for these incredible contributions, tackyoptic! We're in desperate need of more live action/musical characters on here, because, ermmm... y'see, the truth is that... I haven't seen much of the live action stuff. 👉👈 ... embarrassing, I know, BUT, I'm hoping to get around to it all soon!

I'm thankful that you and others on here have seen the live action stuff, because it means y'all get to share your favorite freaks from those movies and shows, while I get to learn something new--- which is super exciting! 😁
 

lupingavemebrainrot

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FOR THOSE Who unfortunately suffer from the Oedipus complex, and must have a dommy mommy. I bring you guys Mama.
about as bad as mommy dearest minus the wire hangers, has a weird vampire backstory and a union of assassins that call her mama in part 3 that some how gets retconned to normie assassination in part 5.

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beardedangel

The World's 5th Shortest Jigen
Apologies for the belated freak. Still not feeling 100% like myself as of late, but, I'm writing to help decompress and destress.

Let's discuss Zylberstein from Part 5, Episode 19, "A 7.62mm Mirage".
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... I know, bonkers, right? Last time I talked about Part 5 was for Bruno... on like, page 2 of this overgrown hellscape of a thread. Then, a subtle nod to Tickey Pasco in the dumb Valentine's post, but... I don't count that one, that post was just one huge goof. I enjoy Part 5 well enough, and, I especially love this episode, so... it does not come from a place of spite, I promise you.

... okay, maybeee there's a eensy-teensy-weensy bit of bitterness once I learned about the scrapped Part 5 concept art, where we almost got a futuristic space opera with Robo-Jigen, a Terminator-esque cyborg Zenigata, and a Fiat bot. TMS, why have you forsaken me??? Just kidding, I love you. I hope these wonderful concepts are re-used in the future... for Part 8, blend them together with the unused leftovers of Lupin VIII, and voilà, problem solved...

... nevertheless, I digress...

Lupin receives an invitation to compete in chess game with Zylberstein... and, by invitation, I meant Zylberstein hired a merc named Mirage to shoot the poor innocent woman serving Lupin's table while he's minding his own business (for once) at a café. Oh, and by chess game, I meant he and Lupin play chess in the place where Mufasa dies where either gentlemen select a gunman to participate in a duel behind them with the objective to snipe the opposing chess player. The winner gets one million euros, the loser gets a new hole installed in their flesh and bones, free of charge... y'know, just your typical Friday game night. Dude, c'mon, just play Catan and Dungeons & Dragons like the rest of us... there's far less collateral damage involved.

This ain't Lupin's first rodeo with Zylberstein, he recounts that they've done this before three years before--- likewise, Jigen notes that Zylberstein is a delulu nutcase, and that he's not in the mood to entertain some rich old fart. But, once he gets word of Zylberstein's gun-for-hire, Jigen sings a different tune--- a long time ago, he and Mirage were comrades-in-arms. Ending up as a refugee once her parents were murdered in front of her, Mirage was forced to become a soldier when she needed to defend herself and fellow refugees from guerilla forces. When the war ends, Jigen and Mirage vow to move on to greener pastures in spite of their struggles--- Mirage then reveals that she's pregnant.

And, we as viewers then learn that the current Mirage Jigen encounters is none other than the daughter of the Mirage he fought beside. Her mother is sick, and she's fighting in her stead to earn enough to cover the medical bills. In the end, Jigen shoots the bullet she fires at Lupin to instead hit Zylberstein. Jigen offers the one million euros to the daughter, but, in turn, he confiscates her mother's gun. He knows of the sacrifices her mother made in order to bring her in to the world, and he doesn't want her to break her mother's heart. She's just a girl, after all, someone so young doesn't need to expose herself to the horrors that gun endured while in her mother's possession--- Mirage fought to protect her daughter from the burdens thrust upon her.

Zylberstein is like a twisted reflection of Lupin 40+ years down the line... he's an eccentric geriatric gazillionaire who's grown bored of everything... so, instead of spending time on Candy Crush or crosswords like other folks in their golden years, Zylberstein concocts death games for him and other eccentric gazillionaires to compete in. To him, people are like pawns on a chessboard, life itself offering no other value except for when put on the line for his own form of amusement--- but, you play stupid games, you win stupid prizes.
 
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my bearded angel in Christ hasn't uploaded in a while so I figure I'd mind as well introduce you to dollar store lupin er I mean nusutto.
Nusutto is not lupin, he is lupin full circle. this what happens to your brain on too much lupin, you end up reading what equates to a badly worded shit post in manga format. Nussutto is basically the manga version of quandale dingle.
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reading the manga felt like this:
so moral of the story tell the womanly thief who steals pants to:
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Bründelkärf

Hardyman der Furchtlose
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Male
...yeah, today we're talking about Interpol Officer, a.k.a, Sam, from Castle of Cagliostro.
Okay, so there is that one moment from the German Cagliostro Dub i forgot about till seeing it today again.
But that Sam gives out one of the funnyest lines in that Dub.
In the Scene where Gustav explains to Zenigata why stepping on the grass is an bad idea, Sam comes up to the Inspector and says "Inspector, I have a weird feeling in my underwear, cause of this place!" (Inspektor ich habe ein Merkwürdiges Gefühl in meiner Unterhose wegen diesem Ort!)
And the whole theater just laughed their ass off.
 

lupingavemebrainrot

Hurr de Durr I have lupin brain rot
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She/Her
Okay, so there is that one moment from the German Cagliostro Dub i forgot about till seeing it today again.
But that Sam gives out one of the funnyest lines in that Dub.
In the Scene where Gustav explains to Zenigata why stepping on the grass is an bad idea, Sam comes up to the Inspector and says "Inspector, I have a weird feeling in my underwear, cause of this place!" (Inspektor ich habe ein Merkwürdiges Gefühl in meiner Unterhose wegen diesem Ort!)
And the whole theater just laughed their ass off.
shit now I want to learn German just to watch the dubs, tbh I grew up when they had the 4kids style dub for Cagliostro, german dubs sound so flipping based.
 
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