If TMS were to lose Lupin..
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Darkest timelines: Studio Pierrot, MAPPA or Toei Animation
The darkest timelines for the merch: Bandai being the sole manufacturer and license holder for Lupin. (Digimon, Dragon Ball and Tamagotchi fans know damn why Bandai is awful)
Personal bias for an animation studio to handle lupin now: David Productions, Studio Bones or Science Saru. Yes this is only cus of Mob 100.
The darkest timelines for the merch: Bandai being the sole manufacturer and license holder for Lupin. (Digimon, Dragon Ball and Tamagotchi fans know damn why Bandai is awful)
Personal bias for an animation studio to handle lupin now: David Productions, Studio Bones or Science Saru. Yes this is only cus of Mob 100.
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I want Madhouse or Trigger.
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There's so many options...
The most likely ones to pick up the series if TMS/Telecom couldn't would be Madhouse and/or Tatsunoko. That's because NTV is co-producer (they co-produced a lot of the series/TV Specials, why copyright is usually Monkey Punch-TMS-NTV) and they own those studios. They also own a bit of Studio Ghibli now but chances of Hayao Miyazaki returning for one more, you have more luck winning the lottery more than once than that to happen.
Personally? Until recently, I would have suggested Sunrise just because they have some history with TMS. They did some animation on a Part 5 episode (Episode 17), they got some of the Part 2/3 staff to do City Hunter, Lupin even appeared in the latest City Hunter film. There's one rumour that I would love if someone did a deep dig in terms of older anime research from a Japanese fan to see if it was true but apparently Tomino worked on a few Part 2 episodes under an alias. Oh and they worked on Cowboy Bebop. So them working on Lupin would feel right at home. Why not now is because I'm concerned over working conditions, especially as they had issues getting the latest Gundam series on air. ufotable would be another since they were founded by some ex-TMS. David Production, Bones and Science Saru are also good picks. Maybe Trigger but they would have to get some decent writers in so people wouldn't complain like people did for Daring in the Franxx.
It was mentioned that what if TMS weren't there to begin with. Then it would have been a very dark timeline... as the only serious competitors that Tokyo Movie had back in the late 1960s/early 1970s were either Toei, Tatsunoko or Mushi Pro, the latter sadly didn't last too long in its original form (TMS picked up Ashita no Joe and grandfather owning the original series, they produced series 2, the film and successor Megalobox). Out of those three, Mushi Pro probably would have been the most likely as Toei and Tatsunoko were more known for younger audiences while Monkey Punch admired Tezuka and Mushi Pro did do adult films so doing Lupin could have been possible. If Tokyo Movie went under and didn't restructure into TMS as even back in the 1970s the anime industry was volatile, then Part 2 onwards wouldn't have existed...
The most likely ones to pick up the series if TMS/Telecom couldn't would be Madhouse and/or Tatsunoko. That's because NTV is co-producer (they co-produced a lot of the series/TV Specials, why copyright is usually Monkey Punch-TMS-NTV) and they own those studios. They also own a bit of Studio Ghibli now but chances of Hayao Miyazaki returning for one more, you have more luck winning the lottery more than once than that to happen.
Personally? Until recently, I would have suggested Sunrise just because they have some history with TMS. They did some animation on a Part 5 episode (Episode 17), they got some of the Part 2/3 staff to do City Hunter, Lupin even appeared in the latest City Hunter film. There's one rumour that I would love if someone did a deep dig in terms of older anime research from a Japanese fan to see if it was true but apparently Tomino worked on a few Part 2 episodes under an alias. Oh and they worked on Cowboy Bebop. So them working on Lupin would feel right at home. Why not now is because I'm concerned over working conditions, especially as they had issues getting the latest Gundam series on air. ufotable would be another since they were founded by some ex-TMS. David Production, Bones and Science Saru are also good picks. Maybe Trigger but they would have to get some decent writers in so people wouldn't complain like people did for Daring in the Franxx.
It was mentioned that what if TMS weren't there to begin with. Then it would have been a very dark timeline... as the only serious competitors that Tokyo Movie had back in the late 1960s/early 1970s were either Toei, Tatsunoko or Mushi Pro, the latter sadly didn't last too long in its original form (TMS picked up Ashita no Joe and grandfather owning the original series, they produced series 2, the film and successor Megalobox). Out of those three, Mushi Pro probably would have been the most likely as Toei and Tatsunoko were more known for younger audiences while Monkey Punch admired Tezuka and Mushi Pro did do adult films so doing Lupin could have been possible. If Tokyo Movie went under and didn't restructure into TMS as even back in the 1970s the anime industry was volatile, then Part 2 onwards wouldn't have existed...
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I really need to dig more into studios history, I know some random stuff but not everything.
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personally I want part 1 and 2 to age out into public domain, that way the internet archive can archive it for security, as for who to host it anyone but crunchy roll I would sooner see rather see a 4kids dub if lupin before crunchy roll gets it.
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I've only ever used crunchyroll to watch the early episodes of dectictive conan which credit where it is due, they did a really good job cleaning up those episodes.
Lupin I suppose gets that with the blu ray releases but I do wonder how much more an audience crunchy could pull in..
I think the 3D film already helped a ton in that regard.
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the problem I have with crunchy roll is the fact they literally change the scripts for the dubs and subs, removing the original context and intent of the creator to push a message, like they've done this for other series. I just don't like it, can you imagine how they would handle the part 1, the one part that was kind of so problematic even by late 60s to early 70s standards that they had to change direction and directors? at that point just hand it to 4kids and watch as jigen and lupin pull out finger guns and smoke lolipops. retrocrush hosts lupins episodes in sub for free, and pluto has its own channel with nothing but lupin subs from part 1 to 5. personally I think public domain, would perserve dubs and subs for generations, we're still missing the part 1 dub, if its falls into domain we can perserve the noice lupin III part 2 dub. but then again I a media perservationist.
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But Parts 1-5 and TWCFM are already hosted on Crunchyroll, and have been ever since 2015. (In Brasil crunchy distributes Zero too, though only Part 4, 5 and Zero have portuguese subtitles)
Although from what i've seen Crunchy uses some pretty old and kinda meh english subtitles for Parts 1-3 that are originally from UTB Hollywood, the first Japanese-language TV station based in the United States that aired in Los Angeles in 1971 and was shutdown in 2018.
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Crunchyroll is the distributing and dubbing Lupin scince a few years over here in Germany. The made multiple dubs already like TWCFM, Part1, the first etc and you cand watch something like 0 with Sub on their Platform.
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I just dont like crunchy roll, they decry internet piracy with their origins being literal piracy, to the point if they notice you with a kiss anime icon in your twitter profile they will out right harass you with a moral spiel on how piracy is bad, despite literally starting as piracy and how you paying for them to hire free lancers literally living pay to check is alot more moral, than them having actual workers with actual job security. they have in the past fucked with certain dubs and subs to push a narrative, and the worsst part is they sell you an idea that you paying a sub price that is anywhere betwen 8 usd to 10 give or take your country of origin would some how magically solve the underpayment problem in the anime industry. I don't support businesses with hypocritical and or unethical business practices. you don't even need to pirate lupin to get a sub for english speakers, retro crush, freevee, and pluto are all legit avenues that you can get with the cost of being forced to watch ads occosionally. its kind of like wearing leather to me, is it neccesary when theres other options other than skinning an animal to make clothes? I am not saying if your dub or sub isnt available else where that crunchy roll offers you shouldnt subscribe to them, but as an english speaker, I can reasonably settle for taking business my business else and not enable bad business practices with out resorting to piracy too watch lupin. and no i am not encouraging piracy,i was just mentioning kissanime because a twitter user was harassed by crunchy roll for their perceived affiliation to the site. basically dont do that, just highlighting one the issues I have with them.
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bring lupin on adult swim just for the buffers alone...